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the use of tax havens to avoid paying taxes in this country is an outrage. we can end it. there's tens of billions of dollars a year involved in closing those kinds of offshore loopholes. >> i'm going to leave it there. senator levin, thank you for being here. hope you had a good holiday. >>> i want to turn to the republican side. peter king of new york. congressman, hope you had a good holiday. good to see you this morning. >> i had a great holiday, especially because notre dame beat southern cal. >> my poor step dad. he is not so happy this morning. >> i don't care about him. >> let me continue on the issue of taxes because this is important. and as i say, it's going to be the defining issue. you hear republican saxby chambliss say it's not going to govern what i do. norquist saying he promised the people of georgia that he would reform the government rather than raise taxes. where do you stand on the pledge? can this be overcome? with revenues be raised? >> first of all, i agree with chambliss. a pledge you signed 20 years ago, 18 years ago, is for that congress. for in
the use of tax havens to avoid paying taxes in this country is an outrage. we can end it. there's tens of billions of dollars a year involved in closing those kinds of offshore loopholes. >> i'm going to leave it there. senator levin, thank you for being here. hope you had a good holiday. >>> i want to turn to the republican side. peter king of new york. congressman, hope you had a good holiday. good to see you this morning. >> i had a great holiday, especially because...
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look for language difference between tax rates and tax revenue as the debate moves forward there. >>> also this morning, the promises made to students by private for-profit colleges. did recruiters know and bend the truth about the job market to lure students to sign up for classes? a lot of reporting in recent years about what is going on with for-profit colleges. some of it kind of scary. we'll delve into that. >> we'll hear more in the next half hour. >>> later, the legendary rolling stones begin their concert tour, celebrating 50-year search for rock 'n' roll satisfaction. the first of five concerts. >> i could watch mick jagger dance all day. i think that's poetry in motion when mick gets on the stage and he's prancing around there. you can't beat that. that's americana at its best. >> better moves. rob nelson? mick jagger? >> no one's in mick's league. >>> but first, retailers will have an eye on computer hard drives today in addition to those cash registers. >> cyber monday has already begun with online vendors posting holiday bargains. shoppers expect to spend $1.5 billion onl
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otherwise taxes will go up and major taxes will be triggered. senators lindsey graham and saxby champ blins are suggesting they would be willing to break their no tax pledge to get a budget deal done. today is day six of the cease-fire between israel and hamas and delegations from both sides are in cairo to meet separately with representatives from egypt which helped broker the cease-fire along with the united states. hamas says the latest round of talks will focus on border crossings and easings of the economic blockade of gaza. >>> the bodies of a northern california couple have been recovered after they were swept out to sea trying to save their dog. the family was playing fetch with their dog north of eureka on saturday. the dog chased after a stick and got pulled into the ocean by eight to ten foot waves. the boy and his parents followed the dog into the water. >> horrible story. >> feeling lucky? no grand prize winner saturday night. the jackpot for wednesday's powerball drawing is up to $425 million. that number could go even higher depen
otherwise taxes will go up and major taxes will be triggered. senators lindsey graham and saxby champ blins are suggesting they would be willing to break their no tax pledge to get a budget deal done. today is day six of the cease-fire between israel and hamas and delegations from both sides are in cairo to meet separately with representatives from egypt which helped broker the cease-fire along with the united states. hamas says the latest round of talks will focus on border crossings and...
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. >> his power comes from this tax pledge. the last thing that he can afford to see more republicans peel off. if they do, then he can't get the next person to sign that pledge. >> tomorrow on "starting point" we're going to be talking to race car driver danica patrick and star of "pretty little liars." cnn newsroom with carols can to casse tell low begins now. >>> horror in bangladesh. two giant clothing factories there go up in flames. they might have made the clothes that are in your closet right now. thousands of workers protest the deaths of their colleagues. were safety warnings ignored? >>> republican rebellion? lindsey graham the latest lawmaker to buck a powerful gop lobbyist and his anti-tax pledge. we'll have the view from the edge of the so-called fiscal cliff. >>> one of the most recognizable voices in hollywood lends his voice to a pro-same-sex marriage ad. >> freedom, justice and human dignity have always guided our journey toward a more perfect union. now across our country, we are standing together for the rig
. >> his power comes from this tax pledge. the last thing that he can afford to see more republicans peel off. if they do, then he can't get the next person to sign that pledge. >> tomorrow on "starting point" we're going to be talking to race car driver danica patrick and star of "pretty little liars." cnn newsroom with carols can to casse tell low begins now. >>> horror in bangladesh. two giant clothing factories there go up in flames. they might have...
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gains tax rate. you know what all of it is? all of it is about can they govern? can they govern? can we be governed? can the people in washington, d.c., in the house and the senate and the president, can they govern? >> they have to. >> well, they have to. they absolutely have to. >> just to make a point for those who thought that the health care reform law was historic, many people -- i actually assume that most of the five people at this table think that it's a shocking thing that america is the most powerful country on earth before the health care law was passed, had a massive number of many, many millions of uninsured people in the country when every other industrialized country has universal coverage. >> right. we do all agree with that, right? >> one of the more historic things, it's going to move millions of uninsured people into the ranks of the civilized world. >> and as the president promised, also not only is he going to put 30 million people on the rolls for health care, it's also going t
gains tax rate. you know what all of it is? all of it is about can they govern? can they govern? can we be governed? can the people in washington, d.c., in the house and the senate and the president, can they govern? >> they have to. >> well, they have to. they absolutely have to. >> just to make a point for those who thought that the health care reform law was historic, many people -- i actually assume that most of the five people at this table think that it's a shocking...
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from it it's sold there are age limits but what has been the result is that for every dollar in taxes the united states receives from legal alcohol or tobacco it costs us ten dollars in social costs so we don't need to legalize something to make it to control it we can actually keep it illegal so that we don't have big industry promoting it to kids but at the same time we also don't need to throw everybody in jail for small amounts of use so i don't live in this world where it's black or white you know we go to jail or it's legal we can do better than that ok pete if i go back to you i mean we haven't said which is not a war against our own people but the level of incarceration the united states is extraordinary that is a war on a population that at least in one sense well i was again i think we can use words in lots of ways i think. the problem is that you have in latin america today a norm is level of violence and killing at that people believe is related to the drug war whether it is or not whether kevin is right that legalizing marijuana in a few states is not going to have any ef
from it it's sold there are age limits but what has been the result is that for every dollar in taxes the united states receives from legal alcohol or tobacco it costs us ten dollars in social costs so we don't need to legalize something to make it to control it we can actually keep it illegal so that we don't have big industry promoting it to kids but at the same time we also don't need to throw everybody in jail for small amounts of use so i don't live in this world where it's black or white...
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that is tax free savings that is not taxed. >> that could just be taxed a lot more next year. >> exactly if all comes to fruition. >> talk about charitable giving. the deduction could go away next year. >> charitable donations of appreciateable assets are fully deductibles. this is one of the best banks for your buck. this is something you can do before the end of the year. all of this might be going away in the new year not necessarily the appreciateable donations that could be affected by income in the new year but something to think about if you have something on hand. >> the alternative minimum tax always gets complicated. >> don't sweat it. this is the amt tax. a lot of folks worry about it they haven't had to pay it before. 34 million more american households will be subjected to this ant tax if we fall off the fiscal cliff. they are saying don't fan panic about it. that many more households affected they are likely to come to some sort of agreement by the end of the year. >> that's good nis. why should we pay for next semester's tuition before the end of the year? >> you are still
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tax issue. if you are a small business owner and you have a gadget to sell out of your garage and you work hard, you don't the money to comply with the different state laws across the country. whatever you call them. >> bob: we are not alone. a lot of republican governors are for taxing the internet. >> eric: in new jersey, i believe you don't pay sales tax on clothes. add sales tax on clothes there? >> brian: absolutely. >> eric: that is because you're from new york. >> dana: it should be fair. should you tax food? chocolate or not? it goes on and on. >> bob: if you talk about fair, how is it fair that people that go to the brick and mortar stores that pay taxes and other people on the internet don't. >> dana: we will explain it in the break. we have to go. major power grab in egypt. susan rice blames the intel community. the anti-muslim video that we talk, he will speak for the first time. the foreign policy roundup is next. in [ male announcer ] are you considering a new medicare plan? then y
tax issue. if you are a small business owner and you have a gadget to sell out of your garage and you work hard, you don't the money to comply with the different state laws across the country. whatever you call them. >> bob: we are not alone. a lot of republican governors are for taxing the internet. >> eric: in new jersey, i believe you don't pay sales tax on clothes. add sales tax on clothes there? >> brian: absolutely. >> eric: that is because you're from new york....
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from taxes. but you are also right that there has to be transparency and there has to be accountability in terms of what is paid for. often we say, let's go and look at the kind of well-rounded education kids have and private schools. but the other thing is that public schools -- it is our moral obligation. what we're seeing is that kids have special needs, we have to pay more for education for kids the special needs. guest: president of the american federation of teachers. she was elected in july of 2008 following 11 years as a vice president. she has experience in the law and also teaches at clara barton high people in crown -- high school in crown heights. our next caller is keen on the democrat line. good morning. we actually have jim now from wisconsin, caller: indepen. caller: i would like to ask randi weingarten, first of all, she is from new york, if i remember. teachers to sit in classrooms and they do not have students -- they get paid. that is because of the unions. about an author who
from taxes. but you are also right that there has to be transparency and there has to be accountability in terms of what is paid for. often we say, let's go and look at the kind of well-rounded education kids have and private schools. but the other thing is that public schools -- it is our moral obligation. what we're seeing is that kids have special needs, we have to pay more for education for kids the special needs. guest: president of the american federation of teachers. she was elected in...
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rates or effective tax rates. there's ways of doing that. >> reporter: with the clock ticking and markets getting nervous, talks begin again this week amid tentative steps toward common ground. >> we can't go off the fiscal cliff. we have to show the world we're adults. the election is over. >> nbc's mike viqueira reporting. >>> overseas to egypt where the country's newly elected leader has granted himself unchecked power sparking days of clashes and sending the country's stock market into a freefall. our reporter is in cairo with the very latest. ayman, good morning. >> reporter: good morning. egypt's stock market opened for a second straight day, and it plunged already by 4%. now, that's already a day after it lost 10%, and officials there had to stop trading just to prevent it from declining any further. that's the economic turmoil this country finds itself in. there are tons of other political and social unrest unfolding across the egyptian capital, cairo. a short while from now, mourners are going to be prayi
rates or effective tax rates. there's ways of doing that. >> reporter: with the clock ticking and markets getting nervous, talks begin again this week amid tentative steps toward common ground. >> we can't go off the fiscal cliff. we have to show the world we're adults. the election is over. >> nbc's mike viqueira reporting. >>> overseas to egypt where the country's newly elected leader has granted himself unchecked power sparking days of clashes and sending the...
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i do not know what else to do besides try to make a profit in a city that is over-taxing the and running down. [applause] >> i do think that you can do a lot through talking to your city supervisor and working through that process. i am telling you, there are ways that began help you. alcohol is a local issue on this type of matter. what we are behind would you guys want to do, whenever that is. a lot of times we do not always have statutes that make that much sense. it is partly the ways that the laws have evolved and we are the ones who are stuck with enforcing them the way that they are. that does not necessarily mean that we think they are particularly good ideas, but we certainly want people to grow, prosper, and be saved. that can be achieved in all sorts of ways. we want to work with you on that. thank you. >> i was the founding president of the entertainment commission. i retired and went on to found the culture association, the first trade association statewide for night life, bar, and restaurant activities. i am here with a question that plagues a lot of these license holders,
i do not know what else to do besides try to make a profit in a city that is over-taxing the and running down. [applause] >> i do think that you can do a lot through talking to your city supervisor and working through that process. i am telling you, there are ways that began help you. alcohol is a local issue on this type of matter. what we are behind would you guys want to do, whenever that is. a lot of times we do not always have statutes that make that much sense. it is partly the ways...
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he said people the realize how will the people self tax. one ceo of target in phoenix, arizona he has created a museum and has put around 200 million of his own money another friend gave 400 million to a health facility in nebraska, minnesota. bill gates paid 750 million i think to fight aids. we should get rid of touch it -- taxes as much as we can see you can descend have to spend your money rather than the government if you have a certain cause if you want to support it it would be nice if you have the choice for we're headed you'll be taxed in your money taken away it is a question. do believe the government should take your money and spend it for you? forty-one to spend it for you? he went on to say actually it is a surge to tax the productive billionaire guys because of everything they do for us. look at steve jobs, bill gates the government ought to pay them. why they collect money for what they have contributed? he also talks about the 47% and how dangerous they are. so that is a very familiar concept. in a way that this super rich
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with some tax increases. but i think that those making over 250,000, those families are going to bear the brunt of all this. i know that everybody enjoys their mortgage deduction. peter barnes, thank you very much. it's good to see you. >> thank you. >> black friday weekend, breaking records all over the place. will cybermonday do the same? after getting a bad beating in the election, the grand old party may be trying to reinvent itself. the new face of the gop and we have answers next. i'm only in my 60's... i've got a nice long life ahead. big plans. so when i found out medicare doesn't pay all my medical expenses, i looked at options. then i got a medicare supplement insurance plan. [ male aouncer ] if you're eligible for medicare, you may know it only covers about 80% of your part b medical expenses. the rest is up to you. call now and find out about an aarp medicare supplement insurance plan, insured by unitedhealthcare insurance company. like all standardized medicare supplement plans, it helps pick up
with some tax increases. but i think that those making over 250,000, those families are going to bear the brunt of all this. i know that everybody enjoys their mortgage deduction. peter barnes, thank you very much. it's good to see you. >> thank you. >> black friday weekend, breaking records all over the place. will cybermonday do the same? after getting a bad beating in the election, the grand old party may be trying to reinvent itself. the new face of the gop and we have answers...
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this new report says that if taxes go up at the end of the year for middle and condemincome tax. it would reduce consumer spending by nearly 2 $1 billion next year. >> a new national poll suggests that americans understand that the physical cliff is no joking matter. two-thirds of people questioned and a c n f o r c poll says that the u.s. would face a crisis or major problems of the country when off the fiscal clifford the end of the year. >> beauty giant l oreal is buying the edgy privately owned make the brent urban decay. the deal, estimated to be about $300 million, will millionl oreal another entry into the fast-growing area of special is brest, which is says represents 44% area of special is brest, which is saylook at you guys with your fancy-schmancy u-verse high speed internet. you know, in my day you couldn't just start streaming six ways to sunday. you'd get knocked off. and sometimes, it took a minute to download a song. that's sixty seconds, for crying out loud. we know how long a minute is! sitting, waiting for an album to download. i still have back problems. you'r
this new report says that if taxes go up at the end of the year for middle and condemincome tax. it would reduce consumer spending by nearly 2 $1 billion next year. >> a new national poll suggests that americans understand that the physical cliff is no joking matter. two-thirds of people questioned and a c n f o r c poll says that the u.s. would face a crisis or major problems of the country when off the fiscal clifford the end of the year. >> beauty giant l oreal is buying the edgy...
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the mandate is to raise taxes. there was no mandate from the voters to tinker with social security and tinker with medicare, but at some point the president's going to put that on the table, and the question will his base let him do it? >> let me switch gears a bit. i want to ask you about senator john mccain. he, of course, has been very critical about the potential nomination of u.n. ambassador susan rice to be secretary of state, something that hasn't happened yet. he appeared to strike a more conciliatory tone over the weekend. i'm going to play two statements for you, john mccain a few weeks ago and john mccain yesterday and ask you about it on the other side. >> we will do whatever is necessary to block the nomination that's within our power as far as susan rice is concerned. >> i think she deserved the ability and the opportunity to explain herself and her position, just as she said. >> chuck, very quickly, is this a very significant change? >> reporter: it is and it tells you something that a lot of people
the mandate is to raise taxes. there was no mandate from the voters to tinker with social security and tinker with medicare, but at some point the president's going to put that on the table, and the question will his base let him do it? >> let me switch gears a bit. i want to ask you about senator john mccain. he, of course, has been very critical about the potential nomination of u.n. ambassador susan rice to be secretary of state, something that hasn't happened yet. he appeared to...
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republicans are resisting the idea that inleasing tax rates on the wealthy will steer the country away from the fiscal cliff even though suspects insist it will. >> i would be very much opposed to raising tax rates, but i believe that we can close a lot of lop holes. >> they have to go up, real or effective tax rates, there are ways of doing this and secondly, we have to gross loopholes. >> lindsey graham is okay with new revenue and willing to cap deductions to get it, but only if democrats agree to reform entitlements like social security and medicare. >> i don't expect the democrats to go for premium ouci do expect them to adjust these entitlement programs before they bankrupt the company. some entilement reform is okay with illinois democratic senator dig durbin, but thinks that social security should be left alone. >> social security does not add one penny to our debt. not a penny. it's a separate funded operation and we can do things and i believe we should, smaller things played out long-term that give it solvency. >> and congressman peter king says nobody will get all they want
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tax rates. there's ways of doing that. >> reporter: with the clock ticking and markets getting nervous, talks begin again this week amid tentative steps toward common ground. >> we have to show the world we're adults. the election is over. >>> to overseas now, where egypt, the country's newly elected leader there has granted himself unchecked power. it's sparking days of violent clashes and sent the country's stock market into free fall. nbc's jim maceda joins us live now. good morning to you. >> good morning, lynn. it's a critical day for mohamed morsi, a former leader of the muslim brotherhood which began on thursday when he issued the decree putting all his decisions effectively above the law. he said he was doing that to protect egypt's very slow move towards democracy from the judges and prosecutors mostly hand picked by hosni mubarak who were seen as sabotaging the process. the backlash was huge, was immediate, the past four days with national strikes, a sit-in on tahrir square and on goin
tax rates. there's ways of doing that. >> reporter: with the clock ticking and markets getting nervous, talks begin again this week amid tentative steps toward common ground. >> we have to show the world we're adults. the election is over. >>> to overseas now, where egypt, the country's newly elected leader there has granted himself unchecked power. it's sparking days of violent clashes and sent the country's stock market into free fall. nbc's jim maceda joins us live now....
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if lawmakers fail to act by january 1st, the american people will face roughly $600 billion in tax increases and spending cuts. >>> because he watches "morning joe" every weekday morning -- >> i don't think that's true. maybe. >> -- monday through friday, senator john mccain is taking our advice and softening his attacks on susan rice. after vowing to block her potential nomination as secretary of state. now, republicans are claiming the ambassador deliberately misled the country in the aftermath of the september 11th attacks on the u.s. consulate in benghazi. but rice says she's not to blame, arguing that she relied on talking points from the intelligence community. now, although senator mccain had threatened a senate filibuster earlier this month, he says he's now open to meeting directly with ms. rice. >> is there anything that ambassador rice can do to change your mind about it? >> sure. she can give everyone the benefit of explaining their position and the actions that they took, and i'll be glad to have the opportunity to discuss these issues with her. >> she could conceivably get your
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. >> i would be very much opposed to raising tax rates. but i do believe we can close a lot of loopholes. >> reporter: and democrats say just closing loopholes and cutting deductions isn't enough. >> you've got to raise additional revenues, including tax rates on the wealthy. >> those have to go up? >> they have to go up. >> reporter: in any deal, republicans insist on big cuts to entitlement programs like medicare and social security. now taxes are getting all the attention right now but these talks also need to address the federal debt limit. it's set by law at $16.4 trillion. the nation is already approaching the national debt of $16.3 trillion. nobody wants a repeat of that summer standoff we went through last year. >> certainly so. susan mcginness in washington this morning, thank you so much. >>> while washington is worried about the fiscal cliff it appears the average american is looking to spend. the holiday shopping season got started in record fashion thanksgiving night and the spending spree lasted through the weekend. according
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and if this fiscal cliff is allowed to happen on january 1, your taxes, my taxes, everybody's taxes go up. and on that point, let's continue. top of the hour, i'm brooke baldwin. i want to begin with the fiscal cliff. because other news here, you have republican senator saxby chambliss, a two-term conservative from the red state south, but just this past weekend, the tea party nation website labeled him, i'm quoting, worthless and a liar. what did he say to deserve these words? he said he's willing to break the no tax pledge that he made when he first ran for office. and guess what? now he has company. fellow republican senators lindsey graham and bob corker say that under the right circumstances, they too are willing to break ranks. what is the republican world coming to? john avalon, straight to you, cnn contributor, writer for daily beast newsweek. i want to get your reaction to the news we heard from jay carney, we now know the president has spoken by phone over the weekend with boehner and mcconnell. might this be progress? >> yes, it might be progress. that's a good thing. you go
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when you throw in the higher state taxes in cities and states promising millionaire tax hikes, not just affecting if millionaires. that brings us to 60%. that is 15 points higher. this isn't specious math. this is logical math. courtesy of the republican strategy hellbent on ignoring that for fear of getting it on rates. the republicans risk being snookered by the democrats who know the opponent's number. blinded in the grand old quest to keep rates moving up, they don't see the other side just taken them to cleaners. we are going to debate this tonight. you can watch other choices. but you can still watch him and watch me. i am a nice appetizer then. that's how i look at it. appetizer. if you did online shopping i'd be a good buy. you know a lot about the cyber bye. >> demand it! >> no. >> you were shopping. >> i was not. not doing anything. >> you were. >> was not. >> that is a laptop.
when you throw in the higher state taxes in cities and states promising millionaire tax hikes, not just affecting if millionaires. that brings us to 60%. that is 15 points higher. this isn't specious math. this is logical math. courtesy of the republican strategy hellbent on ignoring that for fear of getting it on rates. the republicans risk being snookered by the democrats who know the opponent's number. blinded in the grand old quest to keep rates moving up, they don't see the other side just...
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reform and spending cuts over the raising of taxes. here is the senate republican leader on what the g.o.p. is offering. >> without compromising our principles we put skin in the game and recognition to the fact while democrats don't run this town, neither do we. we have been responsible even as we remain firm on this point. no tax increases now for promised spending cuts that you will not materialize later. the american people have seen that game before. they won't be fooled again. >> house republicans are planning to bring in on wednesday a number of c.e.o.'s of caterpillar, goldman sachs and all state and other key players on fiscal includes including erskine bowles co-author of the simpson-bowles and the republicans want the business community to hear their ideas and make the case a big deal should include spending cuts and reforms. >>shepard: thank you, mike, from capitol hill. grover norquist will join neil cavuto next hour and talk about breaking the anti-tax pledge by some republicans. >> the generation leader who brokered the
reform and spending cuts over the raising of taxes. here is the senate republican leader on what the g.o.p. is offering. >> without compromising our principles we put skin in the game and recognition to the fact while democrats don't run this town, neither do we. we have been responsible even as we remain firm on this point. no tax increases now for promised spending cuts that you will not materialize later. the american people have seen that game before. they won't be fooled again....
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. >>> back here at home, top republican lawmakers now say they'd be willing to break a no tax pledge to avoid the fiscal cliff. georgia senator saxby chambliss was among those on the sunday talk shows who said he'd be willing to reconsider raising taxes if democrats will cut spending. >> i will violate the pledge, long story short, for the good of the country only if the democrats agree to reform. >> the pledge signed 18 years ago is for that congress. the world has changed and the economic situation is different. >> now, congressional staffers met over the holiday weekend. and leaders intend to meet with the president this week. there are predictions it could be wrapped up before christmas. >> i like that optimism. >>> well, president obama is expected to announce this week a major reshuffling of his cabinet. u.n. ambassador susan rice will likely be the president's nominee to replace hillary clinton as secretary of state. on top of that, massachusetts senator john kerry is said to be the leading candidate to replace leon panetta at secretary of defense. >>> and we're also expected
. >>> back here at home, top republican lawmakers now say they'd be willing to break a no tax pledge to avoid the fiscal cliff. georgia senator saxby chambliss was among those on the sunday talk shows who said he'd be willing to reconsider raising taxes if democrats will cut spending. >> i will violate the pledge, long story short, for the good of the country only if the democrats agree to reform. >> the pledge signed 18 years ago is for that congress. the world has changed...
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or effective tax rates. there is ways of doing that. secondly, though, we've got to close significant loopholes. >> bottom line, getting back to the report, the president is asking congress it act now specs tend the tax cuts for the middle class. they say the holiday season is not a time to threaten middle class pocketbooks. back to you. >> steve: thanks very much. the white house wants all the people who voted for barak obama to flood congressmen with e-mail and also with video messages via youtube saying why we should raise taxes on the rich. >> gretchen: so it's mainly for conservative democrats and to sway some republicans in those districts. we asked what you thought about this. will it change members of congress' mind? here is marge, cut all loopholes, subsidies and reduce spending equally but do not raise taxes. >> steve: here is a tweet from heather. it would say do your job, pass a balanced budget like required by law. no more closed door secret tax meetings. >> brian: more e-mails and tweets coming
or effective tax rates. there is ways of doing that. secondly, though, we've got to close significant loopholes. >> bottom line, getting back to the report, the president is asking congress it act now specs tend the tax cuts for the middle class. they say the holiday season is not a time to threaten middle class pocketbooks. back to you. >> steve: thanks very much. the white house wants all the people who voted for barak obama to flood congressmen with e-mail and also with video...
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simplifying the tax code, keeping those marginal tax rates low. let's not create a worse in the distortions that already exist in the tax code. dagen: great to see you. take care. we will see you soon. connell: there it is. closing loopholes with norquist. we consider that a tax hike. dagen: lindsey graham. you made the point. loud and clear. a lot of people backing off. connell: backing off the pledge. people will be losing their benefits at the end of the year if congress does not act now. dagen: the money game for the holidays. americans are sitting at their computer screens, not working, looking for the perfect gift. take a look at oil. see where it is trading today. oil is at $87 a barrel. connell: eight quarter past the hour. we will have stocks now as we do every 15 minutes. nicole: we are at our session lows of the day. we certainly had a nice run up last week. over a 100-point game. we are losing about 100 points. i just checked on the dow jones industrials. twenty-eight of the names out of 30 were in the red. intel and caterpillar were t
simplifying the tax code, keeping those marginal tax rates low. let's not create a worse in the distortions that already exist in the tax code. dagen: great to see you. take care. we will see you soon. connell: there it is. closing loopholes with norquist. we consider that a tax hike. dagen: lindsey graham. you made the point. loud and clear. a lot of people backing off. connell: backing off the pledge. people will be losing their benefits at the end of the year if congress does not act now....
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not tax rates but revenue. here's two senators in interviews over the last two days. >> i agree we shouldn't raise rates but i think grover is wrong whether it comes to we can't cap deductions and buy down debt. what do you do with the money? i want to buy down debt and cut rates to create jobs but i will violate the pledge, long story short, for the good of the country, only if democrats will do entitlement reform. >> i'm not obligated on the pledge. i made tennesseens aware. i was just elected. i made aware the only thing i'm honoring is the oath i take when i'm sworn in this january. >> both of these senators are saying they aren't going to be browned by grover norquist from americans for tax reform. this is an issue bigger than norquist. the republican party has positioned itself as the smaller government, anti-tax party. but they've lost an election and it appears that republicans in the senate will see about the house, already to give some ground. >> john, thank you. that's good news. looks like at least
not tax rates but revenue. here's two senators in interviews over the last two days. >> i agree we shouldn't raise rates but i think grover is wrong whether it comes to we can't cap deductions and buy down debt. what do you do with the money? i want to buy down debt and cut rates to create jobs but i will violate the pledge, long story short, for the good of the country, only if democrats will do entitlement reform. >> i'm not obligated on the pledge. i made tennesseens aware. i was...
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one thing is all the taxes eventually get paid. you don't get away with not paying taxes just because you put money into an ira. you have to pay when you pull it out of retirement. the second thing is there is no doubt today people can lower their tax bill, it will be definitely lower the savings rate if we were to do that. and finally, $100 billion is what we could raise. that is a drop in the bucket. a trillion plus dollars deficit. we need way more than these kind of things to fix this. we need to cut spending. that is what we need to do. this is the only way we will balance the budget. melissa: you make a point not everyone has made, just the impact of the stock market of what is going on. raising taxes on investment doesn't even hurt as much as just how much government spending is going on. >> i will try. this is the heart of economics. call it the cloud or the smart phone or the tablet, those technologies to throw out productivity efficiency. and the games society makes from these technologies, we get reinvested, sort of the
one thing is all the taxes eventually get paid. you don't get away with not paying taxes just because you put money into an ira. you have to pay when you pull it out of retirement. the second thing is there is no doubt today people can lower their tax bill, it will be definitely lower the savings rate if we were to do that. and finally, $100 billion is what we could raise. that is a drop in the bucket. a trillion plus dollars deficit. we need way more than these kind of things to fix this. we...
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the tax cut deal, fights over the budget, the debt ceiling, deficit reduction, egypt, libya, and how obama's made the decision and took the actions he to go up but to explain how this is done to set up the 2012 campaign. he had a theory he could make the 2012 race a choice between different approaches to government and everything he did he tried to temper temper -- to other at to a choice. we did not know how things would end up on 2012 but i looked at his governing and elected strategy and it culminated. this is the back story of what happened in the presidential campaign. >> host: david corn. showdown is his most recent book that the national press club >> host: professor, we are here to talk about your book indispensable. i want to say this is a delightful book to read. you deal with very familiar figures. you attack them from some new angles. let's died 10. you have a quote but is attributed to different people also charles de gaulle is most often accredited. what does it mean? >> appropriately it has a dual meaning that people call them sells indispensable and they can't be beca
the tax cut deal, fights over the budget, the debt ceiling, deficit reduction, egypt, libya, and how obama's made the decision and took the actions he to go up but to explain how this is done to set up the 2012 campaign. he had a theory he could make the 2012 race a choice between different approaches to government and everything he did he tried to temper temper -- to other at to a choice. we did not know how things would end up on 2012 but i looked at his governing and elected strategy and it...
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grover norquist's tax pledge could be history. and all eyes are now focusing on house republicans as talks to avoid going over that so-called fiscal cliff are picking up steam. joining me now, mark halperin, senior political analyst for "time" and msnbc and ruth marcus, columnist and editorial writer for the "washington post." to you, mark, what is your read about what we've been hearing the last couple of days about grover norquist, the pledge and how much running room the speaker does have to b negotiating a deal. >> i did a spit take with my fruity pebbles watching "morning joe" because eric cantor's tone was unlike anything i've ever heard. his office is saying oh, no, he's against raising marginal rates, but it's clear that in the scheme of things, the biggest piece is does john boehner have enough running room to strike a deal involving some new revenue. i still am of the belief that the vote in the house, which will be a cliff hanger no matter what happens amongst the leaders in the white house, it will be a tough vote. i t
grover norquist's tax pledge could be history. and all eyes are now focusing on house republicans as talks to avoid going over that so-called fiscal cliff are picking up steam. joining me now, mark halperin, senior political analyst for "time" and msnbc and ruth marcus, columnist and editorial writer for the "washington post." to you, mark, what is your read about what we've been hearing the last couple of days about grover norquist, the pledge and how much running room the...
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they want to raise taxes and republicans don't want to. they are willing to cap certain deductions. >>> and perspective police officers, you can start applying for jobs at the san francisco police department this morning and they will start accepting applications for entry level police officers. eligible application cans have to be at least 20 years old, have a valid california driver's license and high school diploma or equivalent. it will end on friday december 7th and the starting pay for a san francisco police officer is 88,000 dollars a year. well for the san francisco 49ers there are quarterback questions all over again. it happened for the second straight game for the quarterback and coming up, what coach jim harbaugh is saying about who will be his starter in the future. >>> we have been talking about fog and i'm not sure if there is an incident in south san francisco. northbound at the 380 split, just north of fso, let's head out to our maps and a bicycle is laying on the shoulder and officers are not sure if this was an accident
they want to raise taxes and republicans don't want to. they are willing to cap certain deductions. >>> and perspective police officers, you can start applying for jobs at the san francisco police department this morning and they will start accepting applications for entry level police officers. eligible application cans have to be at least 20 years old, have a valid california driver's license and high school diploma or equivalent. it will end on friday december 7th and the starting...
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todayself republica selveral red away from a pledge banning tax increases. >> when you're $16 trillion in debt, the only pledge we should be making to each other is to avoid becoming greece, and republicans should put revenue on the table. i want to cut rates to create jobs, but i will violate the pledge, long story short, for the good of the country only if democrats will do entitlement reform. >> i agree with saxby chambliss. a pledge you signed 20 years ago, 18 years ago is for that congress. if i were in congress in 1941 i would have signed -- supported a declaration of war against japan. i'm not going to attack japan today. the world has changed. >> does it mean we might be closer to a fiscal cliff compromise? athena jones takes a closer look. >> reporter: that's, of course, the big question here. we know in the meeting the president had with lawmakers the friday before thanksgiving there was a lot of positive talk coming out of that with leaders on both sides saying the meeting was constructive, that lawmakers understood their responsibilities, and that they were going to work to
todayself republica selveral red away from a pledge banning tax increases. >> when you're $16 trillion in debt, the only pledge we should be making to each other is to avoid becoming greece, and republicans should put revenue on the table. i want to cut rates to create jobs, but i will violate the pledge, long story short, for the good of the country only if democrats will do entitlement reform. >> i agree with saxby chambliss. a pledge you signed 20 years ago, 18 years ago is for...
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lame duck congress returns this week with barely a month left to avoid the fiscal cliff of mandatory tax hikes and spending cuts. retiring senator joe lieberman today lamented the lack of bipartisanship on capitol hill. >> in my opinion the last two years, 2011-12 have been the least productive and most partisan and uncompromising in my 24 years here. the public seemed outraged at the status quo that produced so little. >> glor: newly elected senator angus king is vowing to help break the logjam by doing what so many others in congress will not, compromise. chip reid caught up with king on the streets of maine. >> if somebody comes to you and says i'm not going to compromise, what they're really saying is i have 100 percent of the truth. i'm 100% right. >> reporter: angus king says he's 100% certain of only one thing. that neither the democrats nor the republicans are always right. that is why when he takes his seat in january as the new senator from maine he will be doing it as an independent. >> the people are absolutely fed up with this nonsense. they have had it with washington not b
lame duck congress returns this week with barely a month left to avoid the fiscal cliff of mandatory tax hikes and spending cuts. retiring senator joe lieberman today lamented the lack of bipartisanship on capitol hill. >> in my opinion the last two years, 2011-12 have been the least productive and most partisan and uncompromising in my 24 years here. the public seemed outraged at the status quo that produced so little. >> glor: newly elected senator angus king is vowing to help...
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vowing to raise taxes on the wealthy. another republican saxby chambliss of georgia, in a recent interview, says he's no longer bound by a pledge not to raise taxes. >> the pledge i signed 20 years ago was valid then. it's valid now but times have changed significantly, and i care more about this country than i do about a 20-year-old pledge. >> reporter: but raising taxes is only one-half of a deficit deal. republicans want democrats to raise the eligibility age for medicare. >> i want entitlement reforms. republicans put revenue on the table, democrats always promise to cut spending. i'm looking for more revenue for entitlement reform before the end of the year. >> reporter: so far democrats sound lex flexible. >> we've got to make sure there is seamless coverage of afordable health coverage for every american. my concern about raising the retirement age gaps in coverage or coverage that's way too expensive for seniors to purchase. >> reporter: there are many potential cliffs but higher taxes for structural changes for m
vowing to raise taxes on the wealthy. another republican saxby chambliss of georgia, in a recent interview, says he's no longer bound by a pledge not to raise taxes. >> the pledge i signed 20 years ago was valid then. it's valid now but times have changed significantly, and i care more about this country than i do about a 20-year-old pledge. >> reporter: but raising taxes is only one-half of a deficit deal. republicans want democrats to raise the eligibility age for medicare....
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there will be lots of tax provisions, including the payroll tax cut, to consider. >> alan krueger, the chairman of the council of economic advisers at the white house, alan, thanks very much for joining us. >> thanks very figure me, wolf. >>> secret confidential information revealed in the confetti at this year evenings macy's's thanksgiving day parade. find out what spectators discovered just ahead. stay with us. you're in "the situation room." . meet the five-passenger ford c-max hybrid. c-max says ha. c-max says wheeee. which is what you get, don't you see? cause c-max has lots more horsepower than prius v, a hybrid that c-max also bests in mpg. say hi to the all-new 47 combined mpg c-max hybrid. until i show them this. the oral-b pro-health clinical brush. its pro-flex sides adjust to teeth and gums for a better clean. the pro-health clinical brush from oral-b. wanted to provide better employee benefits while balancing the company's bottom line, their very first word was... [ to the tune of "lullaby and good night" ] ♪ af-lac ♪ aflac [ male announcer ] find out more at... [ duc
there will be lots of tax provisions, including the payroll tax cut, to consider. >> alan krueger, the chairman of the council of economic advisers at the white house, alan, thanks very much for joining us. >> thanks very figure me, wolf. >>> secret confidential information revealed in the confetti at this year evenings macy's's thanksgiving day parade. find out what spectators discovered just ahead. stay with us. you're in "the situation room." . meet the...
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taxes ride. rule every american is expected to feel the pinch. we'll break down the numbers on the latest proposals and see who maintains what depending on what kind of deal is reached. and are you not one of the so-called rich. no one company or governing body runs the it net. that helped the worldwide interest neat to grow in the way it has to spur democratic movement. a u.n. summit next week could put a little known united nations agency in charge worldwide web. and countries like china, russia, and iran are actively lobbying for new global rules that can allow them to, for example eavesdrop at will or sensor content. rick gold stein is the director of the project. it's no surprise china and iran and russia would love to control the internet. about it's a surprise they are going to have some conference with the u.n. in dubai next week. we are attending and this is going to be the topic? >> looking at the history of the united nations and how it triumphed on free speech. i'm not surprised. we h
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revenue, taxes, i can say taxes, they can't say that on the other side of the aisle, revenue, taxes. that would account for 40% in simpson-bowles, 40%. what we're talking about is to make sure any deficit reduction package forward has a substantial portion of revenue and taxes in it but you can't tax the wealthiest people in america and balance the budget. i know that's true. there has to be spending cuts. also changes in entitlement programs. i happen to agree with the majority leader, social security does not add a penny to the deficit, not one penny, it is a separate trust fund, but it only has about 22 years of life left in it. that's pretty good by washington standards but we can do better. i think and many of us agree, bipartisan basis, let's make some small changes in social security today to guarantee it will be here for 50 years or even 75 years. we can do that. but that's a separate debate. the debate on the fiscal cliff is about entitlement programs. and i watched some of my friends on the left, on the democratic side saying don't touch the entitlement programs. they're ig
revenue, taxes, i can say taxes, they can't say that on the other side of the aisle, revenue, taxes. that would account for 40% in simpson-bowles, 40%. what we're talking about is to make sure any deficit reduction package forward has a substantial portion of revenue and taxes in it but you can't tax the wealthiest people in america and balance the budget. i know that's true. there has to be spending cuts. also changes in entitlement programs. i happen to agree with the majority leader, social...
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i think we have given into the notion that taxes probably have to be raised on the 1% as long as senator graham said he will stand down from his pledge as long as the democrats move on entitleme entitlements. >> that's the big difference there. do you think there is any reasonable chance that we can see any entitlement crimping on that side? boehner made it specific. he said substantial cuts to entitlements. i think that is code for obama care. we know there is no way they are opening up obama care or social security. do you think they are going to open up entitlements? >> i think they have to. i think everybody understands that is the only place that you can and must cut and that is the place they probably will cut. call me a cockeyed optimist. i have been down the line several times. this time i think they get it. i think the sherpas are in the background doing their due diligence making certain that the ts are crossed and is are dotted and we will come up with a resolution to this. i can't imagine we will continue to kick it down the road. remember i thought mr. romney was going to wi
i think we have given into the notion that taxes probably have to be raised on the 1% as long as senator graham said he will stand down from his pledge as long as the democrats move on entitleme entitlements. >> that's the big difference there. do you think there is any reasonable chance that we can see any entitlement crimping on that side? boehner made it specific. he said substantial cuts to entitlements. i think that is code for obama care. we know there is no way they are opening up...
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its taxes for everybody. you cannot bring down the debt with a $5 trillion in your accumulated over the last four years to pay it down. you need structure readjustment with the entitlements, also, with social security, medicare, medicaid, also, and, also, the tax reform. the republicans have talked about revenue coming in from growth jobs and getting the economy going. when you get the economy going, you get more money coming into the irs and treasury/ when more americans are at work, they are paying. i don't believe it -- it is , woodymr. norquist said, it is a pledge to the people. some of those senators wanting to raise -- wanting not to raise taxes, that pledge, they knew what would happen to them, they would get run out of state. first i want to see president obama's cards on the table. host: jerry is up next in st. charles, missouri. good morning. caller: one of the things i would like to talk about is the waste in government. i see it continuously in ads on. on a completely off as far as a meter for yo
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taxes rise. martha: even the white house is warning that the uncertainty of a potential tax hike could hurt american retailers during this deholiday shopping season. white house economists saying quote, as we approach the holiday season which accounts for 1/5 of industry sales, retailers can not afford the threat of tax increases on middle class families. bill: as we learn more about what each side is kill willing to concede in this argument president obama meets with leaders later in the week. this morning we'll meet with house majority leader eric cantor live in "america's newsroom.". next hour we talk to him where these negotiations are. how much each side is willing to give up and what they want in return. ultimately will they get a deal? eric cantor coming up next hour. martha: it is all in the language and semantics of these discussions. as u.s. lawmakers continue all this wrangling over some kind of budget deal we work towards here at home, european lawmakers are meeting today on their fin
taxes rise. martha: even the white house is warning that the uncertainty of a potential tax hike could hurt american retailers during this deholiday shopping season. white house economists saying quote, as we approach the holiday season which accounts for 1/5 of industry sales, retailers can not afford the threat of tax increases on middle class families. bill: as we learn more about what each side is kill willing to concede in this argument president obama meets with leaders later in the week....
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are paying taxes some other way. >> corporations pass along taxes to their consumers anyway. to the customers as well, right, so then you're sort of saying they're going to get stuck with it. shareholders would get stuck with part of it and it also gets passed along with, that seems self-defeating, too. >> we're talking about lowering corporate taxes on the shareholders. on the beneficiaries of those higher. >> you worked in the white house, steve. you know the president. >> i do. >> you know the way he thinks and frankly many of his cabinet members and those quhis pwhispe his ear thing. he'll barnstorm the country and talk about the 39.6%, talking about marginal rates. where is the room to the extent you believe there's room, to compromise, with a house that doesn't want to talk about marginal rates at all? where is the white house able to compromise? >> i've been doing deals for many years, greg has, there's always compromise. could you put the buffett rule in to raise a bit of money over here? the beauty of this situation, it's difficult, but the beauty of it is, it's not
are paying taxes some other way. >> corporations pass along taxes to their consumers anyway. to the customers as well, right, so then you're sort of saying they're going to get stuck with it. shareholders would get stuck with part of it and it also gets passed along with, that seems self-defeating, too. >> we're talking about lowering corporate taxes on the shareholders. on the beneficiaries of those higher. >> you worked in the white house, steve. you know the president....
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he says i would raise taxes if. then he lists this incredible list of reforms and entitlements that the democrats would never give him. i suggested, senator, you're offering to trade a tax increase for a pink unicorn that doesn't exist. >> you're saying this is never going to happen. because if a republican says, you know what, i am actually not going to go with the pledge that i have signed and i'm going to, you know, do this compromise and vote for that, would you then target that lawmaker? would you say, you know, you're lying. you changed your mind from the pledge. now i'm going to put the substantial weight and efforts of your organization to try to unseat that republican candidate? >> george hervert walker bush broke his commitment to the american people. i don't think the americans for tax reform even put out a press release. somehow the american people figured out he broke his commitment. he couldn't get 38% of the vote when he ran in a general. he didn't lose in a primary. he lost in a general election. rai
he says i would raise taxes if. then he lists this incredible list of reforms and entitlements that the democrats would never give him. i suggested, senator, you're offering to trade a tax increase for a pink unicorn that doesn't exist. >> you're saying this is never going to happen. because if a republican says, you know what, i am actually not going to go with the pledge that i have signed and i'm going to, you know, do this compromise and vote for that, would you then target that...
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you and i have to pay taxes. people have to train scientists to build bombs. people have to finance factories to do the building. everyone in this country is involved in that war. what the soldier did is at the end of an enormous long chain, he pulled the trigger. that was his part. but we all like to believe that he did it. we didn't do it. and that is going to alienate a person right away. it's like, "yeah, i did it. and what, and i'm the only one that is responsible for this? why are you laying it all on me?" that's one big problem. and i think it's a problem of alienation, when people come back, and they realize that nobody really cared. and they don't even want to take responsibility for the fact that they were part of the enormous machinery that had all this take place. so i do think that it's important. and i think that these people are proud. they're proud to be in the military. they are volunteers. and they generally want to do a good job and all that. but i can't think that they're not getting a bit resentful. seven tours? it's like, what are you guy
you and i have to pay taxes. people have to train scientists to build bombs. people have to finance factories to do the building. everyone in this country is involved in that war. what the soldier did is at the end of an enormous long chain, he pulled the trigger. that was his part. but we all like to believe that he did it. we didn't do it. and that is going to alienate a person right away. it's like, "yeah, i did it. and what, and i'm the only one that is responsible for this? why are...